{"id":6278,"date":"2019-06-27T13:52:54","date_gmt":"2019-06-27T11:52:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/woodpecker.co\/blog\/?p=6278"},"modified":"2025-01-21T10:25:28","modified_gmt":"2025-01-21T09:25:28","slug":"predictable-revenue-evolution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/woodpecker.co\/blog\/predictable-revenue-evolution\/","title":{"rendered":"Can You Still Create a Predictable Sales Process? The Evolution of Predictable Revenue"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had an immense pleasure to talk with <strong>Collin Stewart<\/strong>, a Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Predictable Revenue,\u00a0who hosts\u00a0their podcast, interviewing <span id=\"urn:enhancement-78381c5d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">B2B<\/span> <span id=\"urn:enhancement-a67c074a\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> leaders on the biggest opportunities and challenges in the industry.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re great <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em> fans at <span id=\"urn:enhancement-7403dc48\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-organization\">Woodpecker<\/span>. We mention the book every time somebody asks us about <a href=\"https:\/\/woodpecker.co\/blog\/cold-email\/8-resources\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sales book recommendations<\/a>. It influenced our cold <span id=\"urn:enhancement-a6f23c6b\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">emailing<\/span> strategy, and our <span id=\"urn:enhancement-8cf50af8\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> development strategy, beyond any measure.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, a book has become slightly dated, considering that we&#8217;re in the Internet era, where ideas and frameworks constantly develop. So, I decided to talk with Collin and ask him what he thinks about <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em> and where\u00a0this <span id=\"urn:enhancement-5740d93e\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> formula\u00a0is right now.<\/p>\n<h2>How has\u00a0Predictable Revenue evolved?<\/h2>\n<p>Let&#8217;s read what Collin thinks about the evolution of <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em>. Here&#8217;s the interview.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: What&#8217;s the current state of sales development compared to what we started with?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Collin:<\/strong> Sales development has become an integral part of the modern <span id=\"urn:enhancement-f20e7d0d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> process. Year after year, we see new <span id=\"urn:enhancement-6f7f00a8\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> development reps join not only the ranks of startups, but also established growth-minded companies, and international corporations.\u00a0Therefore,\u00a0<span id=\"urn:enhancement-c1fb426a\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> development is up and running.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: Do you think Predictable Revenue shaped\u00a0this trend?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> We\u2019re biased, of course, but we like to think Aaron\u2019s book, <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em>, has had a little something to do with this still-growing trend. After all, it was <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em> that set the template for the formula behind <span id=\"urn:enhancement-562b2fa6\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> development, discussed the importance of specialized <span id=\"urn:enhancement-c0a06d54\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> roles, and designed the Cold Calling 2.0 framework.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: Have sales roles\u00a0changed since the book was published?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> But like every dynamic blueprint, the concepts presented in <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em> have evolved over the years to suit the needs of a rapidly shifting <span id=\"urn:enhancement-2af8ab72\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> landscape and a more discerning buyer. To highlight those changes, let\u2019s look at each of the Predictable Revenue pillars separately.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: Could you remind us what is the Predictable Revenue formula?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> Of course. The Predictable Revenue formula goes like this:<\/p>\n<h6>Consistent top of funnel activity + consistent process = predictable revenue<\/h6>\n<p>This is the simple formula that remains the backbone of the Predictable Revenue methodology. At a high level, this framework hasn\u2019t changed over the years \u2013 if you add a consistent top of funnel activity each month and put those leads through a consistent <span id=\"urn:enhancement-d65c581d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> process, you will generate the revenue you need to grow your company.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve come to realize over time are the distinct components that fuel that formula:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Running great discovery calls<\/strong> \u2013 your reps must be digging in and finding pain on each call;<\/li>\n<li><strong>Executing great follow up <span id=\"urn:enhancement-a14f1483\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">emails<\/span><\/strong> \u2013 you aren\u2019t going to close a deal on your first call, so you need to be on top of your follow-ups;<\/li>\n<li><strong>Holding the team accountable to a system<\/strong> \u2013 <span id=\"urn:enhancement-b752629b\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> leaders and managers need to be conducting regular call reviews and consistent pipeline check-ups to help and empower reps to continually execute on their tasks.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Q: So, we need specialized sales roles for that?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> Yes, we do and the companies who follow the framework tend to do that. It\u2019s been great to see the industry hire dedicated SDRs and Account Executives. These two critical jobs function best when kept separate \u2013 the prospectors need to prospect, and the closers need to close.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: I think it allows people to maintain focus, doesn&#8217;t it?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> One mistake we still see regularly with new clients is the blending of inbound and outbound roles. To be successful at outbound, you need to develop a certain mindset and get used to its unique rhythms. But if you\u2019re constantly fielding inbound leads, which bring with them a very different set of characteristics and challenges, it can be difficult to stay in a productive outbound mindset.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: Is there any role added to the equation?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> One added layer of specialization we\u2019ve been championing lately has been for the creation of a Sales Development Researcher role \u2013 someone who specifically supports SDRs with research on accounts. This role provides even more nuanced data on prospects, which can drastically improve messaging and support the important follow-up process.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: What about Cold Calling 2.0 championed by Predictable Revenue?<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> This is the aspect of Predictable Revenue that has undergone the most change over time.<\/p>\n<p>At Salesforce, Aaron and his team built their prospecting methodology with an account driven focus \u2013 in short, researching target accounts, crafting unique messaging to them, and working them to book a meeting.<\/p>\n<p>But what Predictable Revenue inspired, although unintentional, was volume-based prospecting. You know the style \u2013 sending as many <span id=\"urn:enhancement-a2712956\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">emails<\/span> as possible, with generic copy, all in the hopes of getting a reasonable response rate each month.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: I see&#8230; such an approach to outbound wasn&#8217;t effective.<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> To be fair, the proliferation of that style of prospecting was understandable, the industry saw something new, realized it worked and exploited the system until buyers had enough of these <span id=\"urn:enhancement-4a82c9ce\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">emails<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>What was missing, however, were the concepts Aaron describes in the <em>Nail A Niche<\/em> chapter of <em>From Impossible to Inevitable<\/em>: <a href=\"https:\/\/woodpecker.co\/blog\/prospecting\/ideal-customer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">developing your ICP<\/a>, developing your list of accounts and personas, and then <span id=\"urn:enhancement-8ca072a5\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">emailing<\/span> those prospects. That is the targeted approach that\u2019s needed.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past couple of years, that nuance has become more commonplace. <span id=\"urn:enhancement-ffcdf36a\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">Email<\/span> still works, but good prospectors are sending less and being more targeted than ever.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: That&#8217;s why we preach about a <a href=\"https:\/\/woodpecker.co\/blog\/cold-email\/lean-approach\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">lean approach<\/a>.<\/h3>\n<p><strong>C:<\/strong> That&#8217;s one way to go about it. In our experience, the phone remains a critical part of the prospecting process, but we\u2019re seeing a continued rise in social selling, as well as direct mail.<\/p>\n<p>Those tactics, coupled with a specialized <span id=\"urn:enhancement-55725af9\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> team and consistent activity, continue to create predictable revenue. Sure, some of the methods may have evolved, but the result is the same. And that\u2019s what we\u2019re all here for.<\/p>\n<h3>Q: Seems reasonable. Thanks, Collin.<\/h3>\n<p>C: Thanks to you too.<\/p>\n<h2>What do you think?<\/h2>\n<p>Have\u00a0you been one of the people inspired by <em>Predictable Revenue<\/em>\u00a0to transform your <span id=\"urn:enhancement-9569a6b7\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> process and\u00a0started cold calling 2.0? Do you have different roles for your <span id=\"urn:enhancement-8fe0249d\" class=\"textannotation disambiguated wl-thing\">sales<\/span> team? As I mentioned, our team was influenced by the book, and I&#8217;m curious to hear your story. 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